243 Ethical Issues

Group Five

2008-07-30T18:11:00.000-07:00

Sometimes it is is very difficult to find a place to start with people with different disabilities. Do you acknowledge the diability or just work around it or is it just our issue in not dealing with the 3 ton elephant in the room. So we have to deal with our issue before we can deal with someone elses issue. You often just forget to ask and approach the problem or condition head on. Hopefully if you afre approaching someone the wrong way they will tell you.

AHH the ethics of it all....

2008-07-30T17:41:00.002-07:00

In spending time in SL, we witnessed many perspectives of the health care forgotten. For all their differences the main theme is a need for compassion and understanding. Taking people for their words and not their appearance.

The ethical choice to give care without bias, not become jaded and continue to care about people like the nurses that we've tried to become.

In understanding the many different "invisible" diseases we must continue to believe the patient and have respect for them. We must put aside our general ideas of "pain" or "pain seeker" and advocate for all patients equally.

Margret Eldridge
Travis Cox
Stephen Ball
Lei Correa

Ethics in RL SL and Beyond

2008-07-30T17:35:00.000-07:00

Meeting the support group was enlightening and interesting to see a patient with disabilities point of view in regards to nursing care, their illness, and functioning in daily life with their disabilities.

Of note was how importnant a social life and contact with other people is when home bound.

We also noted the gap that exsist between hospital care and the daily living expenses like food, computer access ect.

Marcus, Samantha, Jessica, Jaime

Ethical SIMS by Holly, Rochelle, Megan, and Yuni

2008-07-30T17:12:00.000-07:00

It is very moving and sad to hear the pain and anguish that many people go through day to day. It hurts my heart that some of them were thinking that they don't see what RN's do and that they feel like we don't do our job. I know that I became a nurse because I feel compassion in my heart for anyone that is suffering and I want to do anything I can to help them get through their suffering. I wish they would understand that nurses work hard to get through school and work hard at work to do their job and take care of their patients. Just like any other occupation their are the few people that don't enjoy their job and portray that through their work. Patients need to remember that we are human and we do the best we can everyday.

Ethical Second Life

2008-07-29T18:09:00.000-07:00

Advantages to this group include: 1. Opportunity to meet people in similar situations and learn from their experiences; 2. Anonymous; 3. Create people to look how they may desire to look, for example people in wheelchairs can walk; 4. Non-threatening.

This virtual world has helped us gain better insight into their negative and positive experiences in the healthcare system. From their experiences we can learn how to improve our nursing care.

Jennifer Jones, Allison McEachron, Rachael Warren

eithical blog for Meg, Sonnie, Kalia, and Molly

2008-07-29T18:07:00.000-07:00

We found that the ethical group was really interesting! It was very cool that the group leader had set that all up for everyone to support one another and she facilitated the conversation very well (and was therapeutic about it too!) It almost seemed that the experiences the members had had with medical personnel was not good, because they all seemed to be hating on medical people. However, they were hopeful that we would come away with a new outlook (a patient's outlook) on what to do FOR the patients and that was beneficial.
We did find it encouraging that everyone seemed to really respect the nurses, and were surprised to hear the doctor/pharm rep relationship and how it affected these people's perception of the doctors. It was neat to get to go to a meeting and to get the welcome we did, and it was really great to hear things from a patient's point of view!
Meg Goodfellow, Sonnie Jones, Kalia Norcott, Molly London

Today

2008-07-29T18:05:00.000-07:00

Today we met on Second Life with a group of people who have chronic health problems and got a chance to see what their views of healthcare are. We also asked them what we, as healthcare providers can do to help them better.

One of the things that most of them suggested was to listen to the pt. A lot of time patients feel that they are not listened to well enough and miscommunication is the result. People with chronic conditions know more about their conditions then doctors or nurses. Also they know their body better. Asking them more questions and listening to them can bring about a positive outcome in a more timely manner.

One ethical problem that the patients had was the influence of drug reps and the doctors prescribed treatment.

Ivan
Joseph
Jennifer
Tim

Virtual Ability

2008-07-29T17:49:00.000-07:00

So this second life group (Virtual Ability) is a support group for people with a wide range of disabilities. This SL group provides members with virtual companionship, encouragement, information (disease-related, resources), etc.
In the short amount of time that we spent chatting with members of this group, we learned some valuable things that we will definitely apply in our career as nurses. Many of the things that they discussed were things that we've previously been exposed to, but were definitely reinforced by their comments. Ethically, a member discussed an experience about discovering that her Dr. was pushing drugs based on bribes- clearly an unethical way of practice. Another thing a member mentioned was about Dr.'s trying everything to prolong their life, while ignoring the quality of life. What the patients prefer is "enjoying life." In addition, some feel that they are not offered all the possible treatments because of the risks and the Dr.'s personal opinion. A member commented about how the choice should be theirs, not the Dr.'s- patients should be provided with all possible treatments and make the decision themselves.

Crystal Seto
Robin Rettig
Clint Webster

Legal Ethical Issues

2008-07-16T17:31:00.000-07:00

Marcus, Jessica, Jaime, Sammantha

There were several members of the medical team at fault. The hospital had a degree of responsability to ensure proper proceduers, staffing, and training is provided. The MD has a high degree of responsability for taking out the E-tube, giving bad med orders, and failing to oversee the nurses and other personal. The nurse should have known the drugs should have been given, the epi was to much and the air was to high.

In regards to the court case, the nurse should first apoligies as it humanises the nurse to the jury, and may minimize his/her damages at trial.

We have learned from this to question unsafe orders, and to document thoroughly and in a timely manner and to stand up for our selves, becuase noone else will.

In conclusion I quote Spider man's Uncle Ben, " With great power comes great responsablity."

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2008-07-06T17:54:00.000-07:00

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